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Husband: Johann Jochim Seitz 1 died at age: 92 Other name: Johann Jochim Scharmer Relationship: Great Grandfather Born: 19 Oct 1859 in Elmshorn Schleswig-Holstein 1 (see note 1) Christened: 13 Nov 1859 in Elmshorn Schleswig-Holstein 1 Resided: 1859 - 1875 in Elmshorn Schleswig-Holstein 2,1 Emigrated: 27 Sep 1876 from Hamburg Germany on the "Herschel" 2,3 Resided: 1877 - 1879 in South Australia 2,3 Resided: 3 Mar 1883 in District of Concord Sydney NSW 4 Occupation: 1883 Labourer 4 Resided: 13 Jul 1883 in Burwood Sydney NSW 5 Occupation: 13 Jul 1883 Labourer 5 Resided: 16 Oct 1884 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 6 Resided: 1886 in Concord Sydney NSW 7 Occupation: 1886 Labourer 7 Resided: 1889 in Wellbank Road Concord Sydney NSW 8 Resided: 1890 in Mortlake Street Concord Sydney NSW 9,10 Occupation: 1890 Gas Stoker 9 (see note 2) Resided: 1891 in Mortlake Street Concord Sydney NSW 11 (see note 3) Resided: 1892 in Concord Sydney NSW 12 Occupation: 1892 Labourer 12 Resided: 26 Oct 1894 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 13 Occupation: 1894 Labourer 13 Resided: 1 Feb 1896 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 14 Occupation: 1896 Labourer 14 Resided: 1901 in 14 Wentworth Street Sydney NSW 15 Occupation: 1901 Coal Lumper 15 Resided: 1904 in 34 Bettington Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 16 Resided: 17 Jun 1904 in 34 Bettington Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 17 Naturalized: 18 Jun 1904 in Sydney NSW 18 Occupation: 1904 Coal Lumper 18 Resided: 1905 in 34 Bettington Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 19 Resided: 1906 in 34 Bettington Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 20 Resided: 1906 in 43 Merriman Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 21 Occupation: 1906 Coal Lumper 21 Resided: 1907 in 20 Bettington Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 22 Occupation: 1907 Coal Lumper 23 Resided: 22 Dec 1908 in 49 Windmill Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 24 Resided: 1918 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 25 Resided: 1919 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 26 Resided: 1920 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 27 Resided: 1921 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 28 Resided: 1922 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 29 Resided: 1923 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 30 Resided: 1924 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 31 Resided: 1925 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 32 Resided: 1926 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 33 Resided: 1927 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 34 Resided: 1928 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 35 Resided: 1929 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 36 Resided: 1930 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 37 Resided: 1930 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 38 Occupation: 1930 Labourer 38 Resided: 1933 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 39 Occupation: 1933 Labourer 39 Resided: 1936 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 40 Occupation: 1936 Labourer 40 Resided: 1943 in Windsor Road Padstow Sydney NSW 41 Occupation: 1943 Labourer 41 Resided: 1949 in Windsor Road Padstow Sydney NSW 42 Occupation: 1949 Labourer 42 Resided: 20 Jul 1952 in 4 Windsor Road Padstow Sydney NSW 43 Died: 20 Jul 1952 in 4 Windsor Road Padstow Sydney NSW 43 Cause of death: 20 Jul 1952 Myocardial Failure / Chronic Myocarditis / Senility 43 Cremated: 22 Jul 1952 in Crematorium: Rookwood Sydney NSW 43 Buried: 1952 in Cemetery: Macquarie Park - Catholic Section A5 Grave 3 - North Ryde Sydney NSW 44 (see note 4) Father: Carl Seitz Mother: Anna Scharmer (1834 - 1874) Notes
Wife: Lucy Amelia Abbott died at age: 76 Married: 3 Mar 1883 in District Registrars Office Burwood Sydney NSW 4 Relationship: Great Grandmother Religion: Roman Catholic 23,45 Born: 23 Sep 1859 in District of Concord Sydney NSW 46 Resided: 3 Mar 1883 in District of Concord Sydney NSW 4 Occupation: 1883 Domestic Servant 4 Resided: 16 Oct 1884 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 6 Resided: 1888 in Concord Sydney NSW 47 Resided: 1890 in Mortlake Street Mortlake Sdney NSW 9 Census: 1891 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 48 (see note 5) Resided: 1896 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 14 Resided: 1903 in 34 Bettington Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 49 Occupation: 1903 Domestic Duties 49 Resided: 17 Jun 1904 in 34 Bettington Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 2 Resided: 22 Dec 1908 in 49 Windmill Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 24 Resided: 1910 - 1930 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 50 Resided: 1930 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 38 Occupation: 1930 Home Duties 38 Resided: 1933 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 39 Occupation: 1933 Home Duties 39 Resided: 1936 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 40 Occupation: 1936 Home Duties 40 Died: 20 Jul 1936 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 45 (see note 6) Cause of death: 20 Jul 1936 Mycarditis 45 Buried: 21 Jul 1936 in Cemetery: Macquarie Park - Catholic Section A5 Grave 3 - North Ryde Sydney NSW 45 (see note 7) Father: William Henry Abbott (1836 - 1896) Mother: Elizabeth Morgan (1836 - 1901)
F Child 1: Ada Louise Seitz died at age: 71 Relationship: Great Aunt Born: 13 Jul 1883 in Parramatta Road Burwood Sydney NSW 5 Resided: 22 Dec 1908 in 49 Windmill Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 24 Resided: 1930 in Broad Arrow Road Peakhurst Sydney NSW 51 Occupation: 1930 Home Duties 51 Resided: 1933 in Windsor Road Padstow Park Sydney NSW 52 Occupation: 1933 Home Duties 52 Resided: 1936 in Windsor Road Padstow Park Sydney NSW 53 Occupation: 1936 Home Duties 53 Resided: 1937 in Windsor Road Padstow Park Sydney NSW 54 Occupation: 1937 Home Duties 54 Resided: 1943 in 4 Windsor Road Padstow Park Sydney NSW 55 Occupation: 1943 Home Duties 55 Resided: 1949 in 4 Windsor Road Padstow Park Sydney NSW 56 Occupation: 1949 Home Duties 56 Resided: 1954 in 4 Windsor Road Padstow Sydney NSW 57 Occupation: 1954 Home Duties 57 Died: 12 Dec 1954 in 4 Windsor Road Padstow Sydney NSW 58 (see note 8) Cremated: 14 Dec 1954 in Crematorium: Rookwood Sydney NSW 59 (see note 9) Husband: William James Whitton Springfield b. 25 Nov 1875 d. Oct 1940 Married: 1908 in Sydney NSW 60
M Child 2: Alfred John Seitz 6 died at age: 73 Other name: John Alfred Sykes (see note 10) Relationship: Grandfather Born: 16 Oct 1884 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 6 Religion: 17 Oct 1907 Roman Catholic 61 Resided: 16 Oct 1884 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 6 Occupation: 1907 Coal Lumper 23 Occupation: 17 Oct 1907 Labourer 61 Height: 17 Oct 1907 5 feet 7 1/2 inches 61 Weight: 17 Oct 1907 140 pounds 61 Hair color: 17 Oct 1907 Brown 61 Eye color: 17 Oct 1907 Blue 61 Resided: 1910 in 27 Windmill Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 62 Resided: 1912 in 18 High Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 63 Resided: 1913 in 42 Argyle Place Millers Point Sydney NSW 64 Resided: 1916 in 53 Windmill Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 65 Resided: 1917 in 53 Windmill Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 66 Resided: 1919 in 41 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 26 Resided: 28 Jun 1920 in 41 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 67 Resided: 24 Jan 1921 in 41 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 68 Resided: 1926 in 41 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 33 Resided: 1927 in 41 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 34 Resided: 1928 in 41 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 35 Occupation: 1931 Labourer 69 Resided: 1933 in 47 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 70 Occupation: 1933 Labourer 70 Resided: 1936 in 47 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 71 Occupation: 1936 Labourer 71 Resided: 1937 in 47 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 72 Occupation: 1937 Labourer 72 Resided: 20 Oct 1941 in 18 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 73 (see note 11) Resided: 14 Mar 1942 in 18 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 74 Resided: 1943 in 18 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 75 Occupation: 1943 Labourer 75 Resided: 1949 in 18 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 76 Occupation: 1949 Labourer 76 Resided: 1954 in 18 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 77 Occupation: 1954 Labourer 77 Resided: 1957 in 18 Kent Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 78 Died: 6 May 1958 in Hospital: Randwick Auxillary Sydney NSW 78 (see note 12) Cause of death: 6 May 1958 Chronic Pulmonary tuberculosis / Heart block 78 Cremated: 8 May 1958 in Crematorium: Northern Suburbs Sydney NSW 78 Buried: 1958 in Cemetery: Macquarie Park - Catholic Section A5 Grave 3 - North Ryde Sydney NSW 79 (see note 13) Wife: Gertrude Elizabeth Luck b. 27 Apr 1888 d. 3 May 1970 Also known as: Sis Married: 22 May 1907 in Church: Saint Patricks Catholic Church Church Hill Sydney NSW 23 (see note 14) (see witness 1, 2)
F Child 3: Annie Elizabeth Seitz died at age: 22 Relationship: Great Aunt Born: 2 Oct 1886 in Concord Sydney NSW 7 Died: 20 Dec 1908 in Saint Leonards Sydney NSW 80 (see note 15) Funeral: 22 Dec 1908 at 49 Windmill Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 24 Buried: Dec 1908 in Cemetery: Rookwood - Catholic Mortuary 2 Area Q Grave 1290 - Sydney NSW 24 Husband: Alfred Ernest Kyneur b. 26 Dec 1881 d. 5 May 1917 - 8 May 1917 Also known as: Alfred Kyneur 81 Married: 1907 in Sydney NSW 82
F Child 4: Lucy May Sykes died at age: 66 Relationship: Great Aunt Born: 4 Nov 1888 in Wellbank Road Concord Sydney NSW 47 Resided: 1930 in Sugar Loaf Bay Willoughby Sydney NSW 83 Occupation: 1930 Home Duties 83 Resided: 1933 in Sugar Loaf Bay Willoughby Sydney NSW 84 Occupation: 1933 Home Duties 84 Resided: 1936 in Sugar Loaf Bay Willoughby Sydney NSW 85 Occupation: 1936 Home Duties 85 Resided: 1937 in 52 Frenchs Road Willoughby Sydney NSW 86 Occupation: 1937 Home Duties 86 Resided: 1943 in 52 Frenchs Road Willoughby Sydney NSW 87 Occupation: 1943 Home Duties 87 Resided: 1949 in 52 Frenchs Road Willoughby Sydney NSW 88 Occupation: 1949 Home Duties 88 Resided: 1954 in 52 Frenchs Road Willoughby Sydney NSW 89 Occupation: 1954 Home Duties 89 Died: 16 Jul 1955 in Willoughby Sydney NSW 90,91 Buried: 18 Jul 1955 in Cemetery: Macquarie Park - Catholic Monumental Section C1 Position 0065 - Sydney NSW 92 Husband: William Thomas Leddy b. 1879 d. 1933 Married: 1910 in Waterloo Sydney NSW 93
M Child 5: Frederick William Sykes died at age: 72 Birth name: William Frederick Sykes 9 Relationship: Great Uncle Born: 20 Aug 1890 in Mortlake Street Mortlake Sydney NSW 9 (see note 16) Religion: Catholic 94 Resided: 1930 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 38 Occupation: 1930 Labourer 38 Resided: 1933 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 95 Occupation: 1933 Gardener 95 Resided: 1936 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 40 Occupation: 1936 Labourer 40 Resided: 1937 in Benedictine Monastery Lawson NSW 96 Occupation: 1937 Gardener 96 Occupation: 1963 Gardener 94 Died: 12 Jul 1963 in Lidcombe State Hospital and Home Lidcombe Sydney NSW 94 (see note 17) Cause of death: Acute Tracheo Bronchitis / Emphysema / Pulmonary Fibrosis 94 (see note 18) Buried: 16 Jul 1963 in Cemetery: Rookwood - Catholic Mortuary 2 Area 17 Grave 3179 - Sydney NSW 97 (see note 19) Never married: 1890 - 1963 94
F Child 6: Polly (Mary Josephine) Seitz died at age: 64 Other name: Mary Josephine 14 (see note 20) Relationship: Great Aunt Born: 17 Sep 1892 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 12 Resided: 1930 in Burnett Street Ballina NSW 98 Occupation: 1930 Home Duties 98 Resided: 1936 in 106 Tamar Street Ballina NSW 99 Occupation: 1936 Home Duties 99 Resided: 1937 in 106 Tamar Street Ballina NSW 100 Occupation: 1937 Home Duties 100 Resided: 1943 in 107 Tamar Street Ballina NSW 101 Occupation: 1943 Home Duties 101 Resided: 1949 in 107 Tamar Street Ballina NSW 102 Occupation: 1949 Home Duties 102 Resided: 1954 in 107 Tamar Street Ballina NSW 103 Occupation: 1954 Home Duties 103 Resided: 1957 in Norton Street Ballina NSW 104 (see note 21) Died: 1 Jul 1957 in Cherry Street Ballina NSW 104 Cause of death: Coronary Occlusion / Hypertension / Diabetes Mellitus 104 (see note 22) Buried: 3 Jul 1957 in Cemetery: Ballina - Catholic - Ballina NSW 104 Husband: Alfred Arthur Palmer d. 1916 Married: 1913 in District of Chatswood Sydney NSW 105 Partner: Thomas William Barnes d. 1953 Not married: 1918 - 1930 Met sometime between these years
M Child 7: Thomas Joseph Sykes died at age: 72 Relationship: Great Uncle Born: 26 Oct 1894 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 13 Occupation: 24 Jun 1918 Driver 106 Resided: 24 Jun 1918 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 106 Military: 24 Jun 1918 Enlisted in the Australian Army 106 Resided: 3 Aug 1918 in Lindfield Sydney NSW 107 Military: 8 Oct 1919 Discharged from the Australian Army 106 Resided: 1930 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 38 Occupation: 1930 Plasterer 38 Resided: 1933 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 39 Occupation: 1933 Plasterer 39 Resided: 1936 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 45 Resided: 1936 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 40 Occupation: 1936 Plasterer 40 Resided: 1937 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 108 (see note 23) Occupation: 1937 Labourer 108 Resided: 1943 in 42 Wellington Road East Lindfield Sydney NSW 109 Occupation: 1943 Labourer 109 Resided: 1949 in 42 Wellington Road East Lindfield Sydney NSW 110 Occupation: 1949 Labourer 110 Resided: 1954 in 42 Wellington Road East Lindfield Sydney NSW 111 Occupation: 1954 Labourer 111 Occupation: 1967 Plasters Labourer 112 Resided: 1967 in 42 Wellington Road East Lindfield Sydney NSW 112 Died: 14 Mar 1967 in Hospital: Repatriation General Concord Sydney NSW 112 Cause of death: Myocardial Infarction and Coronary Artery Disease 112 Buried: 29 Mar 1967 in Cemetery: Macquarie Park - Anglican Section R3 Position 0017 - Sydney NSW 112,92 Wife: Violet Marguerite Hanlen b. 1897 Married: 3 Aug 1918 in District of Chatswood Sydney NSW 107
M Child 8: William Henry Seitz died at age: 92 Relationship: Great Uncle Born: 1 Feb 1896 in Concord Road Concord Sydney NSW 14 Resided: 1930 in 68 Awaba Street Mosman Sydney NSW 113 Occupation: 1930 Labourer 113 Resided: 1933 in 74 Awaba Street Mosman Sydney NSW 114 Occupation: 1933 Labourer 114 Resided: 1936 in 74 Awaba Street Mosman Sydney NSW 115 Occupation: 1936 Labourer 115 Resided: 1937 in 74 Awaba Street Mosman Sydney NSW 116 Occupation: 1937 Labourer 116 Resided: 1943 in 57 Cowles Road Mosman Sydney NSW 117 Occupation: 1943 Ganger 117 Resided: 1949 in 57 Cowles Road Mosman Sydney NSW 118 Occupation: 1949 Ganger 118 Resided: 1954 in 57 Cowles Road Mosman Sydney NSW 119 Occupation: 1954 Ganger 119 Died: 1 Jan 1989 in District of Empire Bay NSW 120 Wife: Alma Lillian Sly d. 20 Oct 1971 Married: 1923 in District of Manly Sydney NSW 121
M Child 9: Francis James Seitz died at age: 71 Relationship: Great Uncle Born: 17 Jul 1901 in 14 Wentworth Street Sydney NSW 15 Resided: 1930 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 122 Occupation: 1930 Gardener 122 Resided: 1933 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 95 Occupation: 1933 Gardener 95 Resided: 1936 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 40 Occupation: 1936 Gardener 40 Resided: 1937 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 108 Occupation: 1937 Gardener 108 Resided: 1943 in "Journeys End" Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 109 Occupation: 1943 Labourer 109 Resided: 1949 in "Journeys End" Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 110 Occupation: 1949 Labourer 110 Resided: 1954 in "Journeys End" Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 111 Occupation: 1954 Labourer 111 Resided: 1973 in 167 Ruislip Parkway Buttaba NSW 123 Occupation: 1973 Storeman 123 Died: 13 May 1973 in Hospital: Belmont Hospital Newcastle NSW 123 Cause of death: Cerebro Vascular Accident / Emphysema 123 (see note 24) Cremated: 16 May 1973 Crematorium: Beresfield Crematorium Beresfield NSW 123 Wife: Gladys Millicent Charter d. 28 Mar 1996 Married: 1927 in Lindfield Sydney NSW 124,123
M Child 10: Richard Concord Seitz died at age: 78 Relationship: Great Uncle Born: 7 Jan 1906 in 43 Merriman Street Millers Point Sydney NSW 21,125 Resided: 1930 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 38 Occupation: 1930 Labourer 38 Resided: 1933 in Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW 39 Occupation: 1933 Labourer 39 Military: 19 Feb 1943 Enlisted in the Australian Army 125 Military: 22 Dec 1944 Discharged from the Australian Army 125 Resided: 1949 in Stokers Siding Murwillumbah NSW 126 Occupation: 1949 Share Farmer 126 Resided: 1954 in Kingscliff NSW 127 Occupation: 1954 Labourer 127 Died: 1985 in South Australia 128 Wife: Mary Eileen Turner b. (details excluded) Wife: Eileen Phillis (wife of Richard C Seitz) b. (details excluded)
Sources: (1) EV.-KUTH. Kirchenkreis Rantzau Elmshorn Germany, Baptism Certificate - Joahann Joachim Scharmer / Seitz (61/1859). Researched by Robert Sykes, Moruya NSW. (Copy on File) (2) Commonwealth of Australia, Certificate - Application for Natualization - John Joachim Seitz (13 Jun 1904). (Copy on File) (3) Compiled by Eric and Rosemary Kopittke, Immigration Documents - Emigrants from Hamburg to Australia : 1876, Qld FHS Inc. (1876). Source researched by Robert Sykes, Moruya NSW [On File] (4) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate Johann Jochim Seitz to Lucy Amelia Abbott (23/1883). (Copy on File) (5) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate - Ada Lousia Sitz (5075/1883). Informant: John Sitz, Father, of Burwood. Surname spelt "Sitz" and Ada's mothers name is noted as being Louisa. (Copy on File) (6) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Alfred John Seitz/John Alfred Sykes (5882/1884). There are dual registrations for Alfred, Alfred John Seitz and John Alfred Sykes, from what documents are available it appears he used the name John Alfred Sykes up until his death when he was interred as John Alfred Seitz. (Copy on File) (7) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Annie Elizabeth Syitz (5628/1886). Informant: John Syitz, Father, of Concord. Surname is spelt "Syitz" and Annie's mothers name is noted as Anna Scharmer who in fact was her grandmother. Witness is also noted as Mrs Scharmer. (Copy on File) (8) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1889 (1889). (Copy on File) (9) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate - William Frederick Sykes (9224/1890). Informant: Lucy Amelia Sykes, Mother, of Mortlake. Surname appears as "SYKES". Williams name appears as William Frederick on his Birth Certificate. (Copy on File) (10) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1890 (1890). (Copy on File) (11) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1891 (1891). (Copy on File) (12) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Polly Seitz (9530/1892). Informant: John Seitz, Father, of Concord. (Copy on File) (13) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Thomas J Sitz (9104/1894). Informant: Lucy A Sitz, mother, of Concord. The surname has been registered as SITZ in the NSW BDM register. The birth certificate was amended on the 20 September 1954 to the surname SYKES. (Copy on File) (14) NSW Govt, Birth Certifcate William Henry Sitz (2047/1897). Informant: Lucy Sitz, Mother, of Concord Road Concord. Surname is spelt "Sitz". (Copy on File) (15) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Francis James Seitz (18989/1901). Informant: John Seitz, Father, of 14 Wentworth Street. Surname appears as "Seitz"on birth certificate but as SRITZ on the NSW Online BDM Register. (Copy on File) (16) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1904 (1904). (Copy on File) (17) NSW Govt., Statutory Declaration for Application for Naturalization (17 June 1904). (on file) (18) Commonwealth of Australia, Naturalization Certificate - Johann Joachim Seitz (1904). (Copy on File) (19) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1905 (1905). (Copy on File) (20) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1906 (1906). (Copy on File) (21) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Richard Concord Seitz (261/1906). Informant: J J Seitz, Father, of 43 Merriman Street. (Copy on File) (22) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1907 (1907). (Copy on File) (23) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate John A Sykes to Gertrude E Luck (1324/1907). Johns father, Johann J Seitz used the name John Henry Sykes on this marriage certificate. (Copy on File) (24) The Sydney Morning Herald - 22 Dec 1908 - Page 12, Newspaper - Funeral Notice - Elizabeth Kyneur (nee Seitz) (22 Dec 1908). (Copy on File) (25) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1918 (1918). (Copy on File) (26) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1919 (1919). (Copy on File) (27) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1920 (1920). (Copy on File) (28) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1921 (1921). (Copy on File) (29) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1922 (1922). (Copy on File) (30) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1923 (1923). (Copy on File) (31) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1924 (1924). (Copy on File) (32) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1925 (1925). (Copy on File) (33) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1926 (1926). (Copy on File) (34) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1927 (1927). (Copy on File) (35) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1928 (1928). (Copy on File) (36) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1929 (1929). (Copy on File) (37) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1930 (1930). (Copy on File) (38) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Roseville (1930 - Page 74). (Copy on File) (39) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Roseville (1933 - Page 80). (Copy on File) (40) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Parramatta - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Gordon (1936 - Page 132). (Copy on File) (41) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Reid - State: Bankstown - Sub Div: Bankstown (1943 - Page 121). (Copy on File) (42) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Banks - State: Bankstown - Sub Div: East Hills (1949 - Page 120). (Copy on File) (43) NSW Govt., Death Certificate - John Jochim Seitz (195/1952). Informant: H O Springfield, grandson, of 4 Windsor Road Padstow. (Copy on File) (44) T.H. Tyrrell Pty Ltd, Letter - Inscriptions to Seitz Memorial (13 Nov 1964). (Copy on File) (45) NSW Govt, Death Certificate - Lucy Amelia Seitz (nee Abbott) (13293/1936). Informant: T J Seitz, son of Wellington Road Lindfield Sydney NSW. (Copy on File) (46) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Lucy amelia Abbott (3757/1859). Informant: Elizabeth Abbott, mother of Concord Sydney NSW, (Copy on File) (47) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Lucy May Sykes (5774/1888). Informant: Lucy Amelia Sykes, Mother, of Concord. Surname spelt "Sykes". Fathers name noted as John Sykes. (Copy on File) (48) Book by Clare Stapleton Concord, Title - "After Nell: Descendants of Ellen Register - First Fleeter" (1996). (Book on File) (49) Commonwealth of Australia, NSW Electoral Roll 1903 - West Sydney (Gipps Polling Place) (1903). Voting age in 1903 was any persons over twenty one (21) without criminal record or mental illness. (Copy on File) (50) Unknown, Newspaper - Article - Obituary - Lucy Amelia Sykes (nee Abbott) (Jul 1936). (Copy on File) (51) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Reid - State: Lakemba - Sub Div: Punchbowl (1930 - Page 59). (Copy on File) (52) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Reid - State: Bankstown - Sub Div: Bankstown (1933 - Page 92). (Copy on File) (53) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Reid - State: Bankstown - Sub Div: Bankstown (1936 - Page 100). (Copy on File) (54) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Reid - State: Bankstown - Sub Div: Bankstown (1937 - Page 105). (Copy on File) (55) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Reid - State: Bankstown - Sub Div: Bankstown (1943 - Page 129). (Copy on File) (56) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Banks - State: Bankstown - Sub Div: East Hills (1949 - Page 127). (Copy on File) (57) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Banks - State:East Hills - Sub Div: Revesby (1954 - Page 170). (Copy on File) (58) NSW Govt, Death Certificate - Ada L Springfield (nee Seitz) (27583/1954) (59) The Sydney Morning Herald, Newspaper - Funeral Notice - Ada Springfield (nee Seitz) (14 Dec 1954). (Copy on File - Scrapbook) (60) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate Ada Seitz to William J Springfield (3308/1908) (61) NSW Govt, Gaol Record - SYKES John Alfred (Photograph Number 10496/1907). (Copy on File) (62) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1910 (1910). (Copy on File) (63) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1912 (1912). (Copy on File) (64) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1913 (1913). (Copy on File) (65) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1916 (1916). (Copy on File) (66) Directory, Sands Sydney Alphabetical 1917 (1917). (Copy on File) (67) R. H. Gordon & Co. Pty. Ltd., Letter - to John A Sykes - Piano Purchase (28 June 1920). (Copy on File) (68) NSW Govt, Birth Certificate Gloria Esma Sykes (164/1921). Informant: J A Sykes, Father, of 41 Kent Street. (Copy on File) (69) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate Edward J Sykes to Irene McSherry (414/1931). (Copy on File) (70) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: West Sydney - State: King - Sub Div: Darling Harbour (1933 - Page 59). (Copy on File) (71) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: West Sydney - State: King - Sub Div: Darling Harbour (1936 - Page 53). (Copy on File) (72) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: West Sydney - State: King - Sub Div: Darling Harbour (1937 - Page 54). (Copy on File) (73) Australian Govt, Military Service Records WW2 - Lawrence Frederick Sykes (1939 - 1945). (Copy on File) (74) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate John O Taylor to Gloria E Sykes (24/1942). (Copy on File) (75) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: West Sydney - State: King - Sub Div: Darling Harbour (1943 - Page 57). (Copy on File) (76) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: West Sydney - State: King - Sub Div: Darling Harbour (1949 - Page 56). (Copy on File) (77) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: West Sydney - State: King - Sub Div: Darling Harbour (1954 - Page 49). (Copy on File) (78) NSW Govt., Death Certificate John Alfred Sykes (458/1958). M Slattery, Senior Clerk, Randwick Auxiliary Hospital Randwick. John Sykes, son, 16 Chatham Street Randwick. (Copy on File) (79) T.H. Tyrrell Pty Ltd, Inscriptions to Seitz Memorial (Letter dated 13 Nov 1964). (On file) (80) NSW Govt., Death Certificate Elizabeth (Annie) Sykes (15431/1908) (81) NSW Govt, Gaol Record - KYNEUR Alfred Ernest (Photograph Number 10495/1907). This record consists of two pages. (Copy on File) (82) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate Elizabeth (Annie) Sykes to Alfred E Kyneur (637/1907) (83) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Willoughby - Sub Div: Chatswood (1930 - Page 102). (Copy on File) (84) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Willoughby - Sub Div: Chatswood (1933 - Page 106). (Copy on File) (85) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Willoughby - Sub Div: Chatswood (1936 - Page 109). (Copy on File) (86) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Willoughby - Sub Div: Chatswood (1937 - Page 113). (Copy on File) (87) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Willoughby - Sub Div: Willoughby (1943 - Page 96). (Copy on File) (88) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Willoughby - Sub Div: Willoughby (1949 - Page 68 and 69). (Copy on File) (89) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Willoughby - Sub Div: Willoughby (1954 - Page 68). (Copy on File) (90) NSW Govt, Death Certificate Lucy May Leddy (nee Sykes) (19914/1955). Lucys fathers name is noted as being Joseph and not Johann. (91) The Sydney Morning Herald, Newspaper - Death Notice - Lucy May Leddy (nee Seitz) (18 Jul 1955) (92) Internet Web Site: Cemetery: Macquarie Park North Ryde Sydney, www.maccem.com.au, (Online Search) (93) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate Lucy May Sykes to William Thomas Leddy (6829/1910) (94) NSW Govt, Death Certificate - Frederick William Sykes (28285/1963). Informant: Certified by J H Yates, for Assistant Manager Lidcombe State Hospital and Home Lidcombe. Frederick was born William Frederick Sykes. His fathers occupation was noted as being a Miner. (Copy on File) (95) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Roseville (1933 - Page 79). (Copy on File) (96) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Macquarie - State: Nepean - Sub Div: Lawson (1937 - Page 39). (Copy on File) (97) Internet Web Site: Cemetery: Rookwood Catholic, (Online Search) (98) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Richmond - State: Lismore - Sub Div: Ballina (1930 - Page 1). (Copy on File) (99) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Richmond - State: Lismore - Sub Div: Ballina (1936 - Page 3). (Copy on File) (100) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Richmond - State: Lismore - Sub Div: Ballina (1937 - Page 3). (Copy on File) (101) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Richmond - State: Lismore - Sub Div: Ballina (1943 - Page 3). (Copy on File) (102) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Richmond - State: Lismore - Sub Div: Ballina (1949 - Page 3). (Copy on File) (103) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Richmond - State: Lismore - Sub Div: Ballina (1954 - Page 3). (Copy on File) (104) NSW Govt, Death Certificate - Mary Josephine Palmer, known as Barnes (nee Seitz) (25897/1957). Informant: W. Mullineux, son-in-law, of Norton Street Ballina NSW. There are dual registrations for Polly's death, one for the surname Palmer,May (sic) Josephine, and the other surname Barnes Mary Josephine. Parents names John and Lucy. Registration number remains the same. The actual wording on this death certificate is "MARY JOSEPHINE PALMER, known as BARNES". (Copy on File) (105) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate Mary J Seitz to Alfred A Palmer (6579/1913). There are dual marriage registrations - the other is 6575/1913 in the name of Mary J Sykes to Alfred A Palmer. (106) Australian Government, Military Service Record WW1 - Thomas Joseph Sykes (1914 - 1918). (Copy on file) (107) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate Thomas J Sykes to Violet M Hanlen (8125/1918). (Copy on File) (108) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Parramatta - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Gordon (1937 - Page 139). (Copy on File) (109) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Parramatta - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Gordon (1943 - Page 198). (Copy on File) (110) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Bradfield - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Gordon (1949 - Page 227). (Copy on File) (111) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Bradfield - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Lindfield (1954 - Page 159). (Copy on File) (112) NSW Govt, Death Certificate Thomas Joseph Sykes (518/1967). Informant: J. Sykes, Son, of 20 Bannerman Street Ermington Sydney NSW. (Copy on File) (113) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Warringah - State: Mosman - Sub Div: Mosman (1930 - Page 199). (Copy on File) (114) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Warringah - State: Mosman - Sub Div: Mosman (1933 - Page 205). (Copy on File) (115) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Warringah - State: Mosman - Sub Div: Mosman (1936 - Page 212). (Copy on File) (116) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Warringah - State: Mosman - Sub Div: Mosman (1937 - Page 220). (Copy on File) (117) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Warringah - State: Mosman - Sub Div: Mosman (1943 - Page 259). (Copy on File) (118) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Warringah - State: Mosman - Sub Div: Mosman (1949 - Page 260). (Copy on File) (119) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Warringah - State: Mosman - Sub Div: Mosman (1954 - Page 249). (Copy on File) (120) The Sydney Morning Herald, Newspaper - Death Notice - William Henry Sykes (3 Jan 1989) (121) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate William H Sykes to Alma Sly (3542/1923) (122) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: North Sydney - State: Gordon - Sub Div: Roseville (1930 - Page 13). (Copy on File) (123) NSW Govt., Death Certificate - Francis James Seitz (80868/1973). Informant: G. M Seitz, wife of Francis, of 167 Ruislip Parkway Buttaba NSW, (Copy on File) (124) NSW Govt, Marriage Certificate Francis James Seitz to Gladys M Charter (16685/1927). Francis's surname in the NSW BDM Online Register is spelt SEITH. (125) Australian Government, Military - WW2 Nominal Roll, http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/, (Internet Search) (126) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Richmond - State: Byron - Sub Div: Murwillumbah (1949 - Page 110). (Copy on File) (127) Australian Govt, Electoral Roll - C'Wealth: Richmond - State: Byron - Sub Div: Tweed (1954 - Page 54). (Copy on File) (128) South Australian Genelogical and Heraldry Society, SA Deaths and Burials. Event Notes Note (1) Son Johann J. Seitz born to Anna and Carl Seitz - 16 September 1859 in Elmshorn Germany. Note: On Johann's baptism certificate under the heading of "Surname of Child", the childs name appears as "Scharmer unehelich Spurius Seitz" which when translates roughly says " Scharmer illegitimate with no legal right to the name Seitz" this indicates that Johann was born illegitimate and had no legal right to the name of the father, instead he should have adopted the maiden surname of his mother, not knowing the legalities and law of the day in 1850's Germany I can only surmise that if born illegitimately the child should adopt the surname of the mother. Remarks on the certificate from the Baptism Register states "1. Confined (?) By her mother, the widow Scharmer Loc Stuprationes: Hamburg. 2. Sexual Offence." The full meaning of the comment "2. Sexual Offence" can only be SPECULATED on (I say speculated as there is no evidence to support what took place). It may indicate that a sexual offence (rape) took place which lead to the birth of Johann. Anna never married the father Carl Seitz, but it does appear that Anna did marry a Johann Thee on the 10 Apr 1859. Johann Thee appears as a godfather for Johann J. Seitz on the Baptism Certificate. Note (2) This occupation was employed to stoke the coal fires at a Gas Works, in this case Johann was employed at the Mortlake Gas Works on the Parramatta River Sydney NSW. This employment may have bought Johann into contact with the Coal Lumpers who were employed to load and off load the coal at the Gas Works and may have enticed him to change his employment and move to Millers Point Sydney NSW. Note (3) At the time of the 1891 Census there were five related families residing in Concord Rd Concord. The 1891 Census District 96/A for household #108 noted John Seitz as being the head of the family with 3 males and 4 females, Household #107 was William Abbott and his family of 1 male and 3 females, and in Household #109 was Richard Morgan and his family - 3 males and 6 females. Joseph Morgan and his family - 6 males and 6 females, Frederick Morgan's family - 4 males and 2 females also appear in the Census. (Source is an Email from Clare Stapleton Concord). Note (4) Northen Suburbs Cemetery is now called Macquaire Park Cemetery and Crematorium Headstone Inscription - In Loving Memory of Our Dear Mother Lucy Amelia beloved wife of John Seitz 20-7-1936 aged 78 and her beloved husband John Joachim Seitz died 20 July 1952 aged 97. John Alfred Seitz died 6 May 1958 aged 73. Beloved son of Lucy and John Joachim. Note (5) 1891 - At the time of the 1891 Census there were five related families residing in Concord Rd Concord. The 1891 Census District 96/A for household #108 noted John Seitz as being the head of the family with 3 males and 4 females, Household #107 was William Abbott and his family of 1 male and 3 females, and in Household #109 was Richard Morgan and his family - 3 males and 6 females. Joseph Morgan and his family - 6 males and 6 females, Frederick Morgan's family - 4 males and 2 females also appear in the Census. (Source is an Email from Clare Stapleton Concord). Note (6) 1936 - Newspaper Article "Mrs J. Sykes Snr. With the passing of Mrs John Sykes senior, of Lindfield, on Monday, the Labor Movement has lost one more of the grand old pioneers. Mrs. Sykes had lived for 26 years in Lindfield, and is survived by her husband, six sons, and three daughters. Mr. J. Sykes, of Kent Street, City, is a son, and Mr. F.J. Sykes, president of the A.L.P. branch, Lindfield, is another son. Mrs. Sykes is aunt of Mrs. L. Steel, well known in the Labor Movement. Mrs. And Mr. Springfield, well known in Labor circles in Bankstown, are daughter and son-in-law. The interment took place yesterday at Northern Suburbs Cemetery." Note (7) Northen Suburbs Cemetery is now called Macquaire Park Cemetery and Crematorium Headstone Inscription - In Loving Memory of Our dear Mother Lucy Amelia beloved wife of John Seitz 20-7-1936 Aged 78 And Her Beloved Husband John Joachim Seitz Died 20th July 1952 Aged 97 John Alfred Seitz Died 6th May 1958 Aged 73 Beloved Son of Lucy and John Joachim. Note (8) Death Notice "Springfield, Ada Louise, December 12 1954, at her Residence, 3 Windsor Road, Padstow, relict of William James Springfield, and beloved mother of Lucy, Ada, Edith, Jean, Vera and Harry, aged 71 years. At Rest" (Sydney Morning Herald Monday 13 Dec 1954) Note (9) Cremated at Rookwood "Springfield - The Relatives and Friends of the Late Mrs. Ada Louise Springfield are advised that her Funeral will leave our Funeral Home, South Terrace, Bankstown, this Afternoon at 1.15 o'clock for the Crematorium Rookwood. Labor Motor Funerals, Bankstown." (Sydney Morning Herald Tuesday 14 Dec 1954) Note (10) Born - Alfred John Seitz / Sykes, birth registration appears under both surnames in the NSW BDM register. No explanation for the dual surnames...originally thought surname changed due to outbreak of WW1 and Johns father being of Danish/German background but the names changed well before this when John was born in 1884. Johann Jochim Seitz used the surnames Seitz, Scharmer and Sykes. John's marriage certificate has noted on it that his fathers name was John Henry Sykes. Note (11) Alfred was noted as the Next of Kin for his son Lawrence on his entry into Military Service in WW2. Note (12) Newspaper Death Notice "Sykes, John Alfred - May 6, 1958, of 18 Kent Street, Millers Point, dearly loved husband of Gertrude (Sis) Sykes, loved father of John, Edward, Joseph, Gertie, Edna, William, Ray, Gloria, Laurie, and Allan, dear grandfather and great-grandfather of their children. At Rest." (Sydney Morning Herald Wednesday, May 7 1958) Funeral Notice "Sykes - the Relatives and Friends of the late John Alfred Sykes are kindly invited to attend his Funeral; to leave his late residence, 18 Kent street, Millers Point, Tomorrow (Thursday) Morning, at 9.30 o'clock, for the Crematorium, Northern Suburbs. Labor Motor Funerals, 604 Crown Street, Sydney." (Sydney Morning Herald May 7 1958) Note (13) Northen Suburbs Cemetery is now called Macquaire Park Cemetery and Crematorium John was interred under the name of John Alfred Seitz. Headstone Inscription- In Loving Memory of Our Dear Mother Lucy Amelia beloved wife of John Seitz 20-7-1936 aged 78 and her beloved husband John Joachim Seitz died 20th July 1952 aged 97. John Alfred Seitz died 6th May 1958 aged 73. Beloved son of Lucy and John Joachim. ---- Note (14) Note: John Alfreds fathers name is shown as John Henry Sykes and not Johann Jochim Seitz. Consent of Gertrudes father William R Luck had to be given as Gertrude was under 21 years of age. Witnesses to the marriage were Patrick Byrnes (sic) and Mary Ann McDonald (nee Byrne) who were Gertrudes Uncle (or Cousin) and Aunty. Note (15) Funeral Notices that appeared in Newspapers of the day. KYNEUR. - In loving memory of our dear daughter, Annie Elizabeth Kyneur, who died 20th December 1908, aged 22. Inserted by her loving father and mother, John and Lucy Sykes. "As the Ivy clings to the oak, Our memory clings to thee" KYNEUR. - In loving memory of my dear sister Annie Elizabeth Kyneur, who died 20th December, 1908. Inserted by her loving brother, Fred. KYNEUR. - In loving memory of our dear sister, Annie Elizabeth Kyneur, who died 20th December, 1908. Inserted by her loving sister and brother-in-law, May and Will Leddie. KYNEUR. - In loving memory of our dear Lizzie, who departed this life December 20, 1908, aged 22 years. "Short and sudden was the call, Of her so dearly loved by all, Her memory still is ever dear, For oft we shed a silent tear. Inserted by her loving brother and sister-in-law, Mr. And Mrs. John A. Sykes. KYNEUR. - In loving remembrance of my dear sister, Elizabeth Kyneur, who died December 20, 1908, aged 22 years. "Only those who have lost are able to tell, The pain of the heart at not saying farewell" Inserted by her loving sister and brother-in-law, Ada and Jim Springfield. Note (16) William was born William Frederick but at some time his name changed to Frederick William. Interesting to note that his name appears on his younger brother William Henrys 1896 birth certificate as William Frederick, He is identified as Frederick William on the Electoral Rolls and also on his Death Certificate. William does not appear to have been born with the SEITZ surname. Williams fathers name appears as John Sykes. Note (17) Williams usual residence was noted as being Liverpool Hospital. Not sure if he resided at Liverpool Hospital as a patient or an employee. Note (18) Duration of Illnesses: Acute Tracheo Bronchitis - Days Emphysema - Years Pulmonary Fibrosis - Years Note (19) No headstone found at grave site. Note (20) The name Mary Josephine first appears on her younger brother William Henry's 1896 birth certificate in the list of previous issue. On her other brother Francis James 1901 birth certificate her name appears as Polly and on her youngest brother Richard Concords 1906 birth certificate her name appears as Mary J. Note (21) This address was Marys usual address at the time of her death. Note (22) Duration of Illness: Coronary Occlusion - Hours Hypertension - Years Diabetes Mellitis - Years Note (23) The house or property may have been called Viola as this name preceeded the address. Note (24) Duration of Francis illness was days. Witness (1) Witness Patrick Byrne (2) Witness Mary Ann Byrne Note: Click the link below if there is no MAIN MENU at the top of the Page http://warwicktaylor.com/fam-hist Note: Personal details of living persons have been omitted Note: AGES are only accurate if a death year is known Name Index